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not just that but my spark plug ends or "heads" all have LUCAS impressed on them, and I have not seen any other spark plug wires like that.

You may be on the right tack about the front engine mountings, my engine & gearbox has been out to replace the clutch, but engine mountings were not removed. My air cleaner housing is level with the data plate and the engine bay is original as supplied from Jaguar in 1965. Also my plug leads are in a black plastic sleeve that goes over the front O/S of the cam chain housing then down the middle of the head in the sleeve.
The car is away at present but I will check on my next visit, I checked the various photo's taken for the information above.
Regards
Dave J.

awiedie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm I would be more than happy to take the cleaner off and measure the bracket if it would help anyone.

Alan, that would be hugely helpful, thank you. As you say, yours does look more or less level. The pic of mine in the first post shows how I took the measurement.

awiedie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:43 pm D-washers and plain washers. What do you all think?

Yes, not sure about how many is correct. The SNGB kits seem to have 12 D-washers and 2 plain washers.
I'm pretty sure they should go on top of the various brackets. But you wouldn't put D-washers on top of the engine lifting brackets, would you?

I have 8 D-washers and 2 plain ones, with no washers on top of the engine lifting brackets.

Might have to research that a little further.

cass3958 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:12 pm So the question is which way should the leads lie?

They should come across the front of the cam covers. And if your leads are long enough and you take that route, you really need the bracket on the front of the timing cover (C25127) and plug lead grommet (3204).

But many ignition leads suppliers supply leads that aren't long enough, which is why originally I ended up taking a shortcut. Now fixed, though.

Jose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:42 pm My spark plug ends or "heads" all have LUCAS impressed on them, and I have not seen any other spark plug wires like that.

According to Newsletter 6/11, the plug caps should be Champion WC200. I managed to fine some new old stock, so that's what I have fitted. However, I'm not entirely sure they're correct. They don't match the first two images in the Newsletter. But they do look like the third image.

I've not come across any with Lucas on them.

I'm sorry, Champion, not Lucas is what they say, well I'm not even sure now, maybe it is Lucas.

more reason to open that hood next few days!

cass3958 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:12 pm Love comparing these photos of the engine layouts.
Plug Leads.
Orlando, Glyn and myself all have the plug leads coming from the distributor over the top of the Cam cover whereas Alan and Jose have there plug leads coming up the front of the engine bedside the coil and through the valley of the Cam covers.
I know the reason mine comes over the Cam cover and that is because when I bought new leads thay were quite short even though they were supposed to be for the Jaguar engine and they only just stretch across the top of the cam cover.
So the question is which way should the leads lie?

Both are correct at different times. The sheathed wires & the wires running through circular separators via a chrome ring under the cam cover domed nut into the cam valley wire conduit. My car is set up as original.

The Distributor cap, wires, circular separators, split copper washer end connectors, acorn nuts & Champion Bow Tie plug caps (as Alan & I use & JCNA consider authentic) were sold as a complete replacement set by Jaguar Dealers 25 years ago for S Type & other models under a Jaguar part number.

Early cars did not have engine lifting brackets.

Orlando ~ my bracket measures the same as yours.

ok, so I couldn't resist to confirm, my spark plug heads are indeed Lucas, not Champion, you guys are confusing me!!
One thing I did found out today, the wires need replacing, they actually screw onto the spark plug "heads", their inside is copper wire. The wires are very deteriorated. Also need the hard cardboard Loom through which the wires are routed. It is breaking apart. I don't look forward to this job.

also found out that the air cleaner bracket Washers are Round, not "D". In my engine, the "D" washers are not on the air cleaner bracket "feet".

Also I do not have the engine "hoist pulls". I wonder what happened here.

Jose wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:32 pm
Also I do not have the engine "hoist pulls". I wonder what happened here.

The Lucas connectors are indeed strange but anything was possible in early production.

Your car is a 64 build. As I said in my earlier post early cars did not have the engine hoist brackets. You attached a lifting plate to the front studs.

ohhh, early production, maybe I should attach the later hoist brackets? my XJ-6 has them. or should I dream about finding the Churchill bracket tool?

can you still get the spark plug wiring Loom thing?

I just looked at SNG and could not find it. Who else might have it? Mine is falling apart if touched.